In this episode I interviewed Douglas Kiang. Douglas is a speaker, teacher, and workshop presenter with over twenty-five years of teaching experience in independent schools at every grade level. He currently teaches at Punahou School, where he teaches computer science and supports faculty in the one-to-one program. He is also a keynote speaker and presenter for EdTechTeacher.org. Douglas holds a master’s degree in Technology, Innovation, and Education from Harvard and is pursuing a Doctorate in Global Education Leadership. He is a Google Certified Trainer and an Apple Distinguished Educator. Douglas and I had a great conversation about teaching Swift and the connection between coding, app development, and design.